Next PCNQ Seminar – Jesus did not die on the cross for our sins


When you ask a Christian why Jesus died on the cross, they will almost automatically all answer “to pay for our sins.” This has become a deep rooted Christian belief that is widely taught in churches across the world. It has been accepted by many as Christian doctrine and been passed down from generation to generation. It’s a statement that has been accepted as fact, and one that is the foundation for many Christians.

Therefore it may come as a surprise then to say that the Bible doesn’t actually say this.

No matter how hard you search, you will not find a single passage in the entire Bible that says anything about Jesus paying the penalty for our sins. That’s because this is a “Christian belief” that the Bible doesn’t teach. Rather it was a theology created by humans.

The technical, theological name for this belief is “penal substitutionary atonement.” This theology was not part of Christian doctrine for the first 1,600 years after Jesus was crucified. The ideas was originated and developed by human beings who were having trouble understanding what the Bible teaches about how Jesus Christ saved humanity. They worked with what they could to better understand Jesus’ teachings, but missed the mark. This lead to a creation of a belief that wasn’t really based on the Bible.

There are some limited verses that speak about Jesus’ death in relation to our sins, but they only point to Jesus’ death somehow being related to our sins, but not that His death was a substitute or penalty because of our sins. His death did not scrub us clean of the sins we would commit in the future, or give us a “free for all” pass to do whatever we wanted. His death is not an excuse for our sins, which the “penal substitutionary atonement” alludes to.

To read some more go to: Beliefnet

Assuming there is no ‘lockdown’ the Progressive Christian Network (QLD) will gather at Merthyr Uniting Church, New Farm, Brisbane next Wednesday, 25th August 2021. 10am Hospitality and Fellowship. 10.30am Seminar starts. If you intend to come and would like to receive some background reading notes for this discussion please contact Paul. 


3 thoughts on “Next PCNQ Seminar – Jesus did not die on the cross for our sins

  1. Gene Stecher

    This is where I’m currently coming from: Only in recent years (NRSV 1990, footnote; e.g. Galatians 2:16), and not since the King James Bible 1611, has the Pauline phrase “faith in Jesus” been properly translated as “faith/trust of Jesus.” The Scholars’ Version (The Authentic Letters of Paul, 2010) uses the latter phrase consistently. It’s not a matter of Jesus, as divine Son successfully executing a blood sacrifice, it’s a matter of trusting God as human being Jesus trusted God. And then, surprise, he was lifted up into the human unconscious , so to speak. As Jesus “the trusting one” he lived out the principle of “threat de-escalation” based on the equality principle of nature, “The sun shines and the rain falls on both the good and the evil.” (e.g., Matt 5:45). We can honor his life by also being threat de-escalators. Here are a couple examples from Jesus’ teachings.

    Respond to a threat with non-violent generosity:
    Lk 6:29 When someone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other as well. When someone takes
    away your coat, don’t prevent that person from taking your shirt along with it.
    When anyone conscripts you for one mile, go an extra mile. (Matt 5:41)

    You must include the out-group in your in-group:
    Lk 6:32 If you love those who love you, what merit is there in that? After all, even sinners love
    those who love them.

    Forgiveness is the most basic act of mutual safety:
    Lk 6:37 forgive, and you’ll be forgiven.

    Healing another depends on first healing oneself:
    Lk 6:41 Why do you notice the sliver in your friend’s eye and overlook the timber in your own. 42 You phony, first take the timber out of your own eye, and then you’ll see well enough to remove the sliver in your friend’s eye.

    Try hard to negotiate to avoid legal confrontation:
    Lk 12:58 When you are about to appear with your opponent before the magistrate do your best to settle with him on the way, or else he might drag you up before the judge, and the judge turn you over to the jailer, and the jailer throw you in prison. I tell you, you’ll never get out of there until you’ve paid every last red cent.

    Resist being complicit in the social injustice of ill-gained wealth:
    Matthew 25:14-30 A master distributed large sums of money to his slaves, two Invested the money and one said to him, “Master, I know that you drive a hard bargain, reaping where you did not sow and gathering where you didn’t scatter (Luke 19:21 “and you withdraw what you didn’t deposit”). Since I was afraid, I went out and buried your money in the ground.” (vs.25–26)

    Compassionate behavior breaks down cultural animosity:
    Lk 10:25–37 A man was stripped and beaten along the road from Jerusalem to Jericho. A priest and a Levite altogether avoided him. “A Samaritan bandaged his wounds, brought him to an inn, gave silver coins to the innkeeper to look after him, and promised, ‘On my way back I’ll reimburse you for any extra expense you have had.’”

    Gene Stecher
    Chambersburg, Pa. USA

  2. Paul Inglis Post author

    Thanks for your splendid response Gene. Your thoughts will be tabled at our seminar.

  3. Gene Stecher

    Hi Paul,

    I view the seminar as a very important event and am thankful that I can make a contribution even though unable to be present.


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